Late but not forgotten
This is terribly late but it is something that is interesting to note concerning the Wymer drug case of '05 and '06.
Timothy and Melissa Wymer brought a motion to court in Late '06 in an attempt to force the ex husband of Melissa Wymer to allow unsupervised visits with her children. Judge Fisher presided over this hearing and was not his reserved self.
The Wymers were present along with several of thier followers but a notable absence was the guy representing the "Michigan Lawmens Association". I am speculating that due to the good judge reading him the riot act at the last hearing he attended he did not have the stomach to attend again. This is just a guess but pretty accurate I bet.
The hearing proceded smoothly being totally one sided testimony wise. The Wymers paraded several individuals to the stand that spent the time praising them as fine upstanding citizens - EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE BOTH CHARGED, CONVICTED, AND SERVED SENTANCE FOR BEING MAJOR DRUG DEALERS and that Mr. Wymer has a long history of violent charges and convictions! The Wymers should have brought an attorney as one of thier witnesses contradicted thier major complaint. The Judge was very patient and allowed this to continue until they exhausted thier witnesses. The Ex husband of Melissa offered no testimony or witnesses as the Wymers had done themselves in without his help.
What was the interesting thing here (and the reason of this blog) was that at the conclusion of the Wymers case, Judge Fisher stared them in the eye and told them how it trully was. He informed them that it was evident they were lying and that "no one in the courtroom" believed that the 32 pounds of drugs they were caught with was for thier "personal use" as they had testified. He also said that nothing presented that day convinced him that they were of sufficient parental quality to warrant any unsupervised visits and he was not going to allow Mr. Wymer to have any contact with the children at all (Which they have already violated).
And here is the REALLY interesting thing the Judge said. Judge Fisher made a point to say to Timothy Wymer that he should still be in prison. Judge Fisher informed him that he could only rule on the charges brought before him and "if he had faced the charges that should have been filed, you (Timothy) would sit in prison for many years".
Hmmm. Seems to be a pretty good stamp of approval for sending a past prosecutor down the road I would say.
A final observation here is that during the Judges comments, the Wymers did not react in any way. It was like they did not hear anything the judge was saying. They smiled and appeared as eager adolesents about to be given the family car for the first time. I don't think they get it yet. I also think this garrantees our courts will see these two again.
Timothy and Melissa Wymer brought a motion to court in Late '06 in an attempt to force the ex husband of Melissa Wymer to allow unsupervised visits with her children. Judge Fisher presided over this hearing and was not his reserved self.
The Wymers were present along with several of thier followers but a notable absence was the guy representing the "Michigan Lawmens Association". I am speculating that due to the good judge reading him the riot act at the last hearing he attended he did not have the stomach to attend again. This is just a guess but pretty accurate I bet.
The hearing proceded smoothly being totally one sided testimony wise. The Wymers paraded several individuals to the stand that spent the time praising them as fine upstanding citizens - EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE BOTH CHARGED, CONVICTED, AND SERVED SENTANCE FOR BEING MAJOR DRUG DEALERS and that Mr. Wymer has a long history of violent charges and convictions! The Wymers should have brought an attorney as one of thier witnesses contradicted thier major complaint. The Judge was very patient and allowed this to continue until they exhausted thier witnesses. The Ex husband of Melissa offered no testimony or witnesses as the Wymers had done themselves in without his help.
What was the interesting thing here (and the reason of this blog) was that at the conclusion of the Wymers case, Judge Fisher stared them in the eye and told them how it trully was. He informed them that it was evident they were lying and that "no one in the courtroom" believed that the 32 pounds of drugs they were caught with was for thier "personal use" as they had testified. He also said that nothing presented that day convinced him that they were of sufficient parental quality to warrant any unsupervised visits and he was not going to allow Mr. Wymer to have any contact with the children at all (Which they have already violated).
And here is the REALLY interesting thing the Judge said. Judge Fisher made a point to say to Timothy Wymer that he should still be in prison. Judge Fisher informed him that he could only rule on the charges brought before him and "if he had faced the charges that should have been filed, you (Timothy) would sit in prison for many years".
Hmmm. Seems to be a pretty good stamp of approval for sending a past prosecutor down the road I would say.
A final observation here is that during the Judges comments, the Wymers did not react in any way. It was like they did not hear anything the judge was saying. They smiled and appeared as eager adolesents about to be given the family car for the first time. I don't think they get it yet. I also think this garrantees our courts will see these two again.
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The courts are one big revolving door for people like this. They either are too stupid to get off, or are enjoying the ride too much to avoid the courts.
Judge Fisher probably would of gotten a bigger reaction if he then offered these deadbeats a free buffet in the clerk's office.
Would forced sterilization be too cruel for people like this?
The lucky thing here is that as per close sources, both of these idiots have been rendered sterile reproduction wise.
This couple seems to like the ride. They use the courts to assist them in maintaining thier life styles without haveing to actually work a legitamate job. What they have found is that they can continually steal and deal drugs to support themselves and only risk an ocasional short jail term where they will just sleep in like they do already. If there was an actual detrimental punishment individuals like these two would slowly drift out of our area to somewhere the costs of thier lifestyle was not so uncomfortable.
As per a source within the FOC, Ms. Wymer has just filed some type of action in an attempt to avoid paying her court ordered share of her children's health care. She already is ordered to pay a reduced amount of child support and now is refusing to pay for healthcare for her children.
Well, 911 Admin Board "civilian leader dog" kneil has won re-election again. No one else wanted the job Only an arrogant and pompous state copper would put the ladder up to the rafters and tie his own rope. World just can't do without you kneil.
Good rumors has little charlie kneestrom going off on the County Prosecutor, on audio tape no less, kneil had to physically restrain the nutt case. Why don't we FOIA that and someone blog it LOL. kneil, when he does it with me don't bother restraining him, just pick him up and call 911.
Board concerned about getting kneestroms "good reputation" back??????????????????????????????????????????
Any idea when he had one, anyone, truly, anyone out there know?
Ag3
When and where did the blow up occur? I would be willing to look into this if I had some direction. If this is true, he has no business being in any position of authority. I know Tom well enough to know that he did not raise his voice and was probably only guilty of saying something Charlie just did not want to hear.
911 Admin Board last meeting or two.
Just received a little interesting information on Ms. Wymer but it is not worth a new main post.
Ms. Wymer has been on "enforcement" action for non payment of child support for over 10 years now. She is currently at least $21,000 behind and has now decided to not pay anything to support her children. She has not paid anything for 3 months.
According to FOC records, Ms. Wymer also has never voluntarily paid any of her share of her children's medical bills. The FOC has always been forced to collect them through court action. This was even when she was pulling in big bucks dealing drugs.
Back when the father of her children divorced her, Judge Daugherty (in his pre judge days) talked her up like she was "mother of the year". I wonder if he has re evaluated his thoughts on her any?
Sorry Bill, I just had to toss that in there, lol.
Looks like Judge Fisher is going to get the honor of seeing her again.
It is too bad individuals like this are not charged actual operating costs of our court system. They are the ones using it over and over so they should shoulder the cost and not the rest of the county.
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